Dan Caplis Show, Ken Buck, July 10, 2019

Station:    KHOW, 630 am

Show:       Dan Caplis Show

Guests:    Buck, Ken

Link:        https://khow.iheart.com/featured/dan-caplis/content/2019-07-10-us-rep-ken-buck-r-co-4-on-passing-hr-1044-and-upcoming-mueller-hearing/

Date:       July 10, 2019

Topics:     Mueller Report, Russian Collusion, Obstruction of Justice, Donald Trump

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BUCK [00:00:00] When I read the [Mueller] report — and I have read the report several times — especially on the Russian collusion side of that report, I see a very factual explanation of the investigation. I don’t know why the obstruction was added to it. And I’m concerned about that. But I think for the most part the investigation report was a fair summary of the Russian collusion issue.

CAPLIS [00:00:36] Yeah, I think you’re right on Russian collusion, though I think he includes in that a lot of incidental type of stuff that [makes you wonder], “Wait a second! Why is that there?”  But the obstruction, to me, is what really reveals — I think  — his bad intentions here, because Ken, you as a top prosecutor for so many years, any of us, it just turns American justice — the heart the fairness of American justice — on its head. And now the standard is that Donald Trump has to prove that he did not obstruct justice? And since there wasn’t clear and convincing evidence that he didn’t obstruct justice, they can’t clear him? I mean, that just turned our entire system on its head and to me that really revealed his heart and in my view it wasn’t a pretty picture.

BUCK [00:01:24] I agree completely with you. I gave another interview today, Dan, and I said exactly that. This country is not based on the concept that you are guilty until proven innocent. And so I think it’s a disgrace in a lot of different ways that he raises that issue without coming to a conclusion one way or the other, and just leaves it out there for partisan bickering.