Station:    KNUS, 710 am

Show:       Jimmy Sengenberger  Show

Guests:    Day, Giuliana

Link:        https://sengenberger.podbean.com/e/jimmy-sengenberger-show-feb-8-2020-hr-2/

Date:       February 8, 2020

Topics:     State of the Union Address, Medical Breakthroughs, Premature Babies, Suirvive, Neonatal Research, Banning Late Term Abortion, Live as a Sacred Gift from God, Due Date Too Late Ballot Initiative, Personhood Initiative, Supreme Court, States with No Limits on Abortion, Initiative 120, 22 Weeks, Pro-Choice, Pro-Life, Emotional Pain, Psychological Pain, Tissue, Feel Pain, Fetus, Doctors Facing Jail Time, Exception for the Life of the Mother, Lose License, Misdemeanor Class One, No Penalty for Women, No Jail Penalty, Petitions,

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HOST JIMMY SENGENBERGER [00:00:00] […] about a very important issue and something that I think, as I noted before, has the chance to be the single most effective thing, legally speaking, that the pro-life movement has ever done here in Colorado. But to set the stage, I want to play a clip from the president of the United States State of the Union address, Donald Trump, this past Tuesday, where he specifically addressed the issue that we will be talking about this half hour.

AUDIO RECORDING OF TRUMP’S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS: [00:00:27] We know that America is constantly achieving new medical breakthroughs. In 2017, doctors at St. Luke’s Hospital in Kansas City delivered one of the earliest premature babies ever to survive. Warner just 21 weeks and six days and weighing less than a pound. Ellie Schneider was a born fighter through the skill of her doctors and the prayers of her parents. Little Ellie kept on winning the battle of life. Today, Ellie is a strong, healthy two year old girl sitting with her amazing mother, Robin in the gallery. Ellie and Robin, we’re glad to have you with us tonight. Reminds us that every child is a miracle of life. And thanks to modern medical wonders, 50 percent of very premature babies delivered at the hospital where Elie was born now survive. Incredible thing. Thank you very much. Our goal should be to ensure that every baby has the best chance to thrive and grow. Just like Ellie. That is why I am asking Congress to provide an additional 50 million dollars to fund neonatal research for America’s youngest patients. That is why I’m also calling upon members of Congress here tonight to pass legislation finally banning the late term abortion ban. Whether we’re Republican, Democrat or independent, surely we must all agree that every human life is a sacred gift from God.

SENGENBERGER [00:02:29] How President Trump did that was fantastic. And the way in which he went about it, making the point of providing a visual that’s so powerful, I think was the way it has to be, that you have to do it in order to get the point across to the American people. But the problem is, at the national level, you have the Democrats in control of the House of Representatives, and they’re not going to move forward with ending late term abortion. But here in Colorado, there is an incredible opportunity for us to do exactly that, as a new ballot initiative is trying to get the signatures needed — just a few weeks left — to get onto the 2020 November ballot that would end late abortions in Colorado. Their website — “Due-Date-Too-Late-dot-com” —  and Giulliana Day, its lead organizer, joins us here, in studio. Giuliana, welcome. It’s so good to have you here. Thanks for taking the time.

CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST, ORGANIZER, AND OPERATIVE, GIULIANA DAY [00:03:24] Thank you, Jimmy. So it’s a pleasure to be here and especially to talk about an issue that is normally close to my heart. But is does an important issue that is affecting society in general.

SENGENBERGER [00:03:36] It so is. And I want to explain why I think this so effective and then we’ll get into the specifics of what it would actually do. For many years, the pro-life movement in Colorado has tried in many different election cycles to get a personhood amendment on the ballot and approved by the people of Colorado. It has failed every time because essentially it would get rid of abortions altogether here in the state of Colorado, which obviously is a goal we should all be working towards. The majority of Colorado voters have never been on board with that. And not only that, if it were to be approved, it likely would be struck down by the Supreme Court. But here in Colorado, we’re one of the few states, if not maybe the only [state], that essentially has no limits on abortion, particularly as it relates to time. And that’s what this measure would do, is finally put a limitation, particularly in terms of banning late term abortion here in the state. Pragmatic!

DAY [00:04:27] Yeah, that’s right. And one of the things that has been very surprising is the way — since I go directly and talk to the people, and I [am] always fascinated just to hear the testimonies from the community — and to know that so many people don’t have any idea that in the state of Colorado you can actually abort a baby until just the last second that a baby is going to be born. So, it’s just amazing. So what this initiative — Initiative 120 — tries to do is to set restrictions at 22 weeks –when a ba — into the pregnancy. So, just to ban late term abortion. Because it is –just a very — for me, it is just incredible, the emotions involved about this issue, Because when I’ve been talking about — especially women — and whether they are pro-life or pro-choice, many times I found myself just embracing these women and crying with them because there’s a lot of emotional pain and psychological pain and physical pain, too. Because the other side is always presenting the issue of abortion as, “Hey, it’s something very simple. It’s going gonna take 10 minutes and you’re going to get rid of tissue,” when the reality is completely different. And when, specifically about initiative 120, is the third trimester when a baby has all the physical structures to feel pain.

SENGENBERGER [00:05:55] [The fetus] could be born!

DAY [00:05:55] Yeah. And it is viable. That’s another thing that is critical, because a baby is already viable.

SENGENBERGER [00:06:02] One thing that I like about this particular initiative — and I have got the text in front of me — is that it doesn’t lock people up in jail. Like that’s one of the things that the the pro-choice crowd are all about. Those who are advocates of abortion, they say, “Well, these measures would lock up women who have an abortion!” they would not be penalized — women — at all. Doctors wouldn’t be facing jail time. They would be fined, maybe lose their license as part of this if they were to perpetrate an abortion. It does have the life exception for the mother, for example. Also, someone who has a miscarriage won’t be penalized for something completely out of their control. Talk to us a little bit about that, because that’s where I think the potentia,l here, for success really is:  in the way in which this is worded and presented if and when it gets on the ballot in November.

DAY [00:06:50] Yeah. One of the critical issues was to have a language that will not penalize women because they are going through so many difficult circumstances.  When we’re talking about young girls getting pregnant, or for — you know, in life, probably they don’t have the financial resources. There are women who are going through many difficult circumstances. So, we didn’t want to add just to, you know, those problems, and make it more difficult for the woman. So the language of that initiative is very moderate. And it doesn’t penalize women at all. So, when it comes to the penalties for the doctor, it will become a Misdemeanor Class One, but with no jail penalty. And they will have to pay the fine if not. And mainly, the penalty is to take away the license of the doctor, at least for three years. That’s the penalty. So I think we can have a consensus here in the state. And it’s just already — the data is showing that 73% of Americans in the country, they feel that it’s something reasonable to set some limitations when it comes to abortion.

SENGENBERGER [00:08:04] And one thing — and this goes to the point I was making before, Giuliana Day, and that is one thing that the pro-life movement has been trying for, understandably, is to ban abortions altogether. And that hasn’t been tenable because of some of the issues that you’re coming across here and expressing, which is the idea of not throwing people in jail, for example, or the notion that there are a lot of people who think at least up to a certain point, abortion should be something that people are able to do. It’s — from a pragmatic perspective of actually being able to finally put a limit on abortion here in the state of Colorado,  it’s a pragmatic approach. It is pragmatically pro-life.

DAY [00:08:41] Yeah. This is something that when I have talked to pro-choice women and men, they feel it’s reasonable. And sometimes I’ve been asked the question when is it that a baby feels pain. And I remember this particular young girl, she was telling me, “I am pro-choice, but I want to know when a baby feels pain.”   And I was just indicating, you know, a baby at that stage of course feels pain. So, there is something very reasonable.  They feel, “Okay, you are putting some restrictions. And even though I am pro-choice, but the idea that there are no restrictions that you can abort a baby until birth — yeah, that’s not me. That’s not me!” And they’ve been signing — a lot of those people that are pro-choice and they’ve been signing the petition already.

SENGENBERGER [00:09:29] Do you know how many other states in the country have no time limit, whatsoever?

DAY [00:09:33] Yeah. There are seven states.

SENGENBERGER [00:09:34]  Yeah, so we’re one of seven out of fifty in the nation that doesn’t have a time limit.

DAY [00:09:34] Exactly!

SENGENBERGER [00:09:34] And that is astounding to me, after all–.  And it has been — I have been aware of this for several years, the idea that we don’t have any time limits. And my thought for years has been the pro-life movement should be advocating for at least a late term abortion ban, as opposed to going for the gusto and trying to get rid of all of  it, which isn’t going to happen. So that’s why I’m so glad that we finally have something like what you’ve put forward, trying to get onto the ballot. Now, a big question is, how are you progressing? How has this been going? I know you’ve been getting a lot of support from the — not just pro-life community broadly, but from churches that have often had signing events where you can go and sign the petition to help get it onto the ballot this November and so forth. How is that moving along and what kind of response are you getting from people in that regard?

DAY [00:10:29] I’m feeling very encouraged. And we are going to be able to put this on the ballot. But this is the final push, and we have to finish –.

SENGENBERGER [00:10:40] Three days left?

DAY [00:10:40] Yeah. But we have to finish strong, and just to make a statement that we are united when it comes to this issue. And we are setting the deadline for February 15 for the people who was [sic] requesting the petitions and they have had the petitions for a while.  Please, send them back! That’s going to be critical, just to get those petition packets back.  And you can contact me, please. My cell phone number, just keep that in mind, is 7 2 0 – 8 9 9 – 0 8 9 7. And the address, if you want to mail the packets, is on the front of the petition. It’s on — there’s a P.O. Box, and it’s in Englewood. Please, mail the petition if you have it completed.  [If you] already notarized the petition,please send them back. And if for any reason  you have any questions or concerns, feel free to call me. My cell phone number is 7 2 0 8 9 9 0 8 9 7 0. Send me a text message. You can also e-mail me at GiulianaDay33-at-gmail-dot-com. And the spelling of my name is G-I-U-L-I-A-N-A, D-A-Y-33-at-gmail-dot-com.

SENGENBERGER [00:11:53] And there’s contact information on the website as well, which is “due-date-too-late-dot-com, which I think is a very easy to remember website. I like — and I think it’s clever and gets the point. “Due-date-too-late-dot-com,” or also, if you click on the events page, you’ll see upcoming events. Tell us about that, because if people are listening and they want to sign the petition — if they haven’t done already.  Don’t sign it again if you’ve already signed it . A) it doesn’t mean that you’re going to get additional signatures onto the ballot initiative. Also, it can mean your signatures altogether get disqualified, if you go ahead and sign twice.  Or at least one of them.

DAY [00:12:34] No, well what happens is — one of them. Just one of them. Yes, and it will get disqualified — invalid.  But was is important — I encourage people — please just go to the website, “due-date-too-late-dot-com” and if you — there’s a list of different events. So we’re trying just especially this Saturday, the 15th — February 15th — we’re going to have events all over the state. We’re still encouraging people, if they want to help the efforts and if you feel like, “Hey, I can spend a couple hours from 10 to noon on Saturday, [February] 15 and gather signatures,” please let us know, and — so we can post it on the Facebook. Because we want this to be all over the state. And if you want to sign the petition that they or there is another church that wants to participate, I encourage you just to do it. Keep doing it!  And for those new churches and people, individuals, who want to carry petitions, the deadline to [turn them in]– we will move it to February 23. That will be February 23 for the new ones. But for the ones who already have the petitions please, we need those petitions back. It is very important to start validating the signatures.

SENGENBERGER [00:13:47] We’re talking with Giuliana Day who is running the effort, along with so many others who have been actively helping in this important objective to end late abortions in Colorado. “Due-date-too-late-dot-com” is the website. We’re going to take a quick break. When we come back, I’ll list out some of the cities — this weekend and next weekend — that you can go to — or during the week, as well — to sign the petition if you haven’t done so already. And we’ll talk a little bit more about why this is so important and very strategic as well, on the Jimmy Sengenberger Show. Stay withy us, [at] Newstalk 710 KNUS.

[00:14:53] [commerical break].

SENGENBERGER [00:14:53] Good evening, folks! Welcome back to the Jimmy Sengenberger Show, Newstalk 710 KNUS, coming back with a little Reverend Jimmy Bradshaw, doing his tune “Something Better.”  And yes, folks, there’s got to be something better than the current state of affairs in Colorado where abortion is legal up till the last opportunity for an abortion to take place, before the baby is born. But there is an effort to get a ban on late term abortion on the ballot. The End Late Abortions in Colorado, Initiative 120. Their website: “Due-date-too-late-dot-com,” that’s “due-date-too-late-dot-com,” where you can go to the events page and find out a place near you where you can sign the petition. [It is] very much needed, coming up on the end of the opportunities to do so — it’s the beginning of March, [when the petitions are due]. Giuliana Day joins us, in studio. She is leading this effort, along with so many others that have said, “Yes! Enough is enough! Let’s take this step!”  Giuliana, what’s the final deadline when you have to turn in petitions?

DAY [00:16:02] Well, we are asking people to be–just to return the petitions that they were already requested is by February 15th, please. The ones who had already filled out those petitions, they are already notarized, please — they are completed — just send them back, whether you mail them or you contact me. If for any reason you have any difficulties and you cannot mail those petitions, I will make arrangements to get them back. But please, we have them — we need those petitions and [to] start validating those signatures.  And, I still encourage people, please, go to “due-date-too-late-dot-com” and sign up to be a circulator. That’s important. If there’s a church, there’s an individual that want to circulate, if there are businesses that want to help the effort, and just to ask people to stop by and sign the petition, please do! Just register online at “due-date-too-late-dot-com” and the deadline — because we need to start the process of validating the signatures — will be February 23.  Please just do. And also, just join us – that’s another call to action — we know that President Trump is going to be having a rally on the 20th. Please join us. There are going to be thousands of signatures that we are going to be collecting. And for the ones that already have the petition packets and they want to just finish it, and — please go over there if you want to drop off your petition packets, too, you can do it.  And my cell phone number, for– just to contact me to make arrangements for just to have the signatures or drop off petition packets, it’s 7 2 0 8 9 9 0 8 9 7. So, please just join us, so we can come together as a community. This has been an increedible effort and it has been uniting a lot of people.

SENGENBERGER [00:17:57] Well, tomorrow there are going to be opportunities to sign the petition, far away in Glenwood Springs, but also closer nearby is Arvada, Greeley and Aurora. On the website “due-date-too-late-dot-com,” you go to events and you can find that all coming up over the course of the next couple weeks, including the Trump rally down in Colorado Springs on the 20th. And once again, I want to say that the reason why I think this is such an important effort — initiative 120, End Late Abortions in Colorado, again, “due-date-too-late-dot-com,”– is because it is something that as Giuliana Day has been pointing out, people who are even pro-choice advocates of abortion in earlier stages think that this is reasonable. It’s not going to lock women up. It’s not even going to lock doctors up for committing an abortion, for undergoing that. It has the life exception. It’s very well put in a way that I think is strategic, that is smart, that is pragmatically pro-life, has an opportunity to be successful. We just need to get it on the ballot. But Giu,liana Day, we’re out of time, here. We will have you back as the effort gets ready to wrap up. But, congratulations on taking the leadership position on this important effort and doing something that can be done. And I hope many people will get on board. And again, check out the website, “due-date-too-late-dot-com.”.

DAY [00:19:14] Yes! Please, do it! We can pull this initiative on the ballot. I’m counting on a lot of people in the state to come together and do it!

SENGENBERGER [00:19:20] Again, we”re one of just seven states in this country that does not have a late term abortion ban. President Trump called on Congress to do it. They’re not going to, the Democrats [are] in control of the House [and] won’t take the initiative. But we can take the bull by the horns, right here in Colorado.

DAY [00:19:37] That’s right!

SENGENBERGER [00:19:37] “Due-date-too-late-dot-com” God bless you, Giuliana Day.

DAY [00:19:39] Thank you so much.

SENGENBERGER [00:19:40] Thoughts and prayers and best wishes. I’m Jimmy Sengenberger. We’ll be back with David Bronson when we continue.  Stay with us!