Peter Boyles Show, Bob Beauprez, August 27, 2014

Station:   KNUS, 710AM

Show:      Peter Boyles Show

Guests:    Beauprez


Date:       August 27, 2014

Topics:     Governor John Hickenlooper, Kelley & Company, Pardon, Execution, Families of the Victims, Clemency, Channel 9, Decisive Action, Common Core, Illegal Unaccompanied Minors, Children, Border, “Inland”, Colorado NGs (National Guard troops), Texas Governor Rick Perry, Border Patrol Agent, Bill Ritter, Former Mayor Wellington Webb, Rosalinda’s Restaurant, Sanctuary Policy, Drivers’ Licenses for Illegals, “Liberty’s Promise”, Immigration Enforcement, Alliance of Governors, Roy Romer, Cory Voorhis, Trusting in People, Freedom, Ronald Reagan, Pro-job, Pro-opportunity, Pro-freedom, Arming Teachers, Public Schools, Gun Free Zones, College Campus, Nathan Dunlap

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HOST PETER BOYLES:  Ladies and gentlemen, please see good morning, welcome back to 710 KNUS.  He hit a home run with what happened with John Hickenlooper.  We got you on there.  Good morning, Congressman Beauprez, good morning.  Welcome back to 710 KNUS The Morning Show.


BOYLES:  You know, I’m good.  I’m really good.


BOYLES:  Um, you– I heard the replay of Kelley & Company when it slips out that in fact Jack–er, John Hickenlooper very well may, if you win, pardon all of these creeps, or give them the pass that they will never be executed.  Let’s begin on positive note, your thoughts about that.

BEAUPREZ:  Well, it sounds like a threat, doesn’t it, Peter?  I mean, it’s a threat in the middle of the political season and they’re playing with the Colorado law, it’s playing with the will of the voters.  It’s– the worst offense in all of it, Pete, and I’m guessing you probably agree with me on this. Uh, the victims of the families, or the families of the victims from that terrible tragedy from over twenty years ago–you and I were both here then– those folks have been waiting now twenty years, thought that they had finally figured out when their day of justice was going to arrive.  [The] judge had set the date for the execution.  John Hickenlooper intervenes with this, this, this new invention — new to me, anyway — of a temporary reprieve where you kick the can down the road, “I can’t figure it out. Let the next guy deal with it”, a kind of an executive order.  And then he makes it even worse, in my opinion, by reopening that wound yet again, with the thought of, “well, if I don’t win the election, maybe we just grant clemency” and [inaudible] the wound is even more raw, and the following morning, after that story comes out yesterday morning, he goes on Denver media and says, “No, no, no!  That was just hypothetical. [I] didn’t really mean clemency.  I haven’t changed my position at all.”  Well, Peter, if you can figure out exactly what’s inside John Hickenlooper’s head, please tell me.  I don’t think anybody can, including himself.

BOYLES:  Now, I watched –Channel 9 has this little vignette of him talking and this guy saying, “Explain yourself.”  He doesn’t explain himself, but the guy at Channel 9 accepts that as his answer.  I — it’s called ‘the nuclear option.’  He was going to — if he got –.  My belief is, if you beat him, –at least at that point, and who knows what will happen now– he was going to give reprieves to all of these people.  Um, I believe that he has been so influenced — or maybe that’s the real John Hickenlooper.  I think you’ve tried to make the point, no one knows who this guy is.

BEAUPREZ:  Well, and not only on this issue.  I mean, this is the one that’s raw right now, and the one we’re all talking about.  But we’ve seen it over and over again, with this would-be energy compromise.  He goes through this tortured process of trying to make everybody happy, somehow.  The old Rodney King, “Can’t we just all get along”.  “Let’s just talk this through.  Sooner or later we’ll all find that middle ground, that compromise.”  And you know, it –that’s nice, maybe, in theory, back in the sixties, when we were all still just kids.  But it’s not reality.  I mean, some issues, especially when you’re a governor, require you as you raise that hand and take that oath to enforce the laws of the state of Colorado, require action, require decisive action.  That’s what John seems to have a very, very difficult time doing, and why, at this point, you know, four years into his first term — almost a full four years, we’re still trying to figure out who is John Hickenlooper and what’s he all about.

BOYLES:  Using that statement — ‘a man who, or a woman who is decisive, who is a person of action, let’s assume that you’ve won, and you take office and you’re now the governor.  Common Core, the education bureaucracy that I think is extremely politically correct, far left of center, is in Colorado right now.  It’s been brought here with a lot of money that comes along with it.  I know that Denver Public Schools, Channel 9 did a horrible piece lionizing Common Core. I give you the magic wand, governor.  Would you stop Common Core if you become governor?

BEAUPREZ:  Yes.  We don’t need a government intervention — a federal government intervention in our classrooms in Colorado.  Nobody loves our kids more than Mom and Dad.  And that’s really where it ought to begin, when we start making the decisions where and how our children are educated, we ought to trust, first and foremost, mothers and dads —

BOYLES:  Yes, that’s right!

BEAUPREZ:  –to figure out the best place to get that done: Local communities!

BOYLES:  So, I knew last night we were going to talk.  And I made a list of things, and I –but, I love it that you just said that you would stop Common Core.

BEAUPREZ:  Stop it!  Stop it!

BOYLES:  Hickenlooper as welcomed Common Core.  Stop it!  Good!  Put — Let’s see if this turns up something.

BEAUPREZ:  Stop it!  There.


BOYLES:  Good!  All right.  Number two: we know that Hickenlooper has welcomed these illegal children who have come into this country.  Would you allow Colorado to continue to receive these, quote, undocumented whatever-they-are, fill-in-the-blank, no matter how old they are, how young they are –would you stop that?

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah, they’ve got to stay on the border, Pete.  They shouldn’t even be allowed in the border.  But to bring them this far inland makes it that much more difficult to send them back home.  If–.

BOYLES:  Thank you!

BEAUPREZ:  Yep, done!

BOYLES:  So you, –Here’s a really curve ball:  would you send Colorado NGs to the border to help Rick Perry’s NGs– National Guard?

BEAUPREZ:  If I — If Rick Perry or another governor requested it, I’d certainly step up and do my part.

BOYLES:  So–.  Wow!  You’re k–.  As that guy always said, “You’re killing me, Smalls.”  You would, if –.  You’re winning my vote, here.  Um, so you would stop Common Core.  If Governor Perry asked —said to you, “Hey, Governor Hickenlooper, send me some reinforcements, some guys –the NGs and others,” you would indeed send some Colorado NGs down to help Rick Perry’s Texas NGs on the border.

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah, only I wouldn’t be Governor Hickenlooper.  I’d be Governor Beauprez.

BOYLES:  I said Beauprez — I said Hickenlooper, my apologies.  You know, right.  John Hickenlooper wouldn’t even take the phone call.  Um, and you would stop allowing these illegal kids to come in here.


BOYLES:  You know that –.

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah, and I mean, this shouldn’t — this has been a long time in coming.  You know that, Pete.

BOYLES:  I agree.

BEAUPREZ:  Uh, this has happened because of a failed will of Washington, and particularly Barack Obama.  And they’ve sent every signal that you get, here.  I’ve –.  You probably heard the same interview I did of a border patrol agent, and I thought said it very well.  Uh, he was asked, these many, many weeks ago, when this issue erupted.  He was interviewed, I think it was a Fox reporter who got it– doesn’t really matter, but a reporter said, “So, what’s it like down here?”  And he said, “You know, people used to cross the border and we’d catch them and we’d send them back.  Now they cross the border and they catch us.

BOYLES:  That’s right.

BEAUPREZ:  “Literally!  Cross the border and come right up to us and say, ‘We’re here, take care of us.’”  And he says, that’s where [sic] our orders tell us to do.  And why do you think they keep coming?

BOYLES:  When Bill Ritter was governor, and John Hickenlooper was mayor, replacing Wellington Webb, Wellington Webb proclaimed Denver, Colorado to be a sanctuary city.  Uh, without a doubt, we did a campaign, put up billboards at the time, saying, you know, “Relax.  You made it to sanctuary.”  John Hickenlooper denied any of that but we have all the paperwork, where Wellington Webb, outside of Rosalinda’s restaurant, proclaimed Denver a sanctuary.  Ritter brought that policy to the state level, and it’s been reinforced by John Hickenlooper.  Nobody calls ICE. You let people go.  Drivers’ licenses for illegals.  You’re now the governor.  What would you do with sanctuary policy?

BEAUPREZ:  Well, whether it’s written down somewhere that you’re a sanctuary, or you just are in fact and everybody knows it, it’s the same difference. And that’s where we’re at.  So laws — we’ve gotten into this mess since the mid-80s because of a failure to enforce the law.  The rule of law matters, Pete.  And I’ll take an oath to enforce the rules of law, and that would be one of them.  One of the big issues that all governors have is the impact of the failure of Washington to act.  This is one many places.  And one of my pledges in the thing we called “Liberty’s Promise” is to re-establish state sovereignty, and to push back — take them to court if we have to, the federal government on a whole multitude of issues.  You mentioned Common Core, that’s one.  Certainly, immigration enforcement is a big one.

BOYLES:  Yeah!

BEAUPREZ:  And I think an alliance of governors, a coalition– I call it — of governors, like-minded governors, can have an enormous impact in getting the federal government to finally get off of its duff.  Both parties have played politics with this for a long, long time.  And if somebody comes to the conclusion that they don’t want a solution, either party, that’s a pretty easy solution to get to, because it appears that they really don’t.  But who gets impacted?  Who pays the price, eventually? It’s the states who get impacted, so that’s why governors need to stand up and — on behalf of their citizens and their states.

BOYLES:  Sure. So, you, I mean, you would do everything in your power as governor — we have a state that has a strong governor –you would stop sanctuary policies, you would give the green light to law enforcement, you would do everything you can to override cities like Denver and their sanctuary policies.

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah.  Yeah, isn’t that what governors are supposed to do, is speak out on behalf of their [inaudible]?

BOYLES:  Indeed.  They are.  They are.  So, just a couple things, here. You would stop Common Core.  You would–.

BEAUPREZ:  Yes, sir.

BOYLES:  If Rick Perry would ask for Colorado’s NGs, you would send them to the border.  You would not take in anymore illegal kids.  You would stop everything you possibly can on sanctuary policy, that was brought in by Roy Roemer and Wellington Webb, that was furthered down the line by John Hickenlooper and Bill Ritter.  And of course, one of the things that we saw, and I need to take a pause, here, as you understand.  You do fill-in talk radio. [stammers] When you keep — excuse me.  Can we keep you through hold?

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah, I’d like to talk to you.

BOYLES:  I want to bring back, because I–.


BOYLES:  There’s a couple other ones on the list.  So far, you’ve knocked the ball out of the park.  Reca–Go over it again. You would stop Common Core if you were governor.  You would send the NGs if Rick Perry asked them [sic], you would not take any more sanctuary policy illegal kids here.  You would do everything you could, in your power, to stop sanctuary and sanctuary methods, including putting spines back in law enforcement.  You know, the ICE people got away with everything when –. And you knew this, that whole sad story of Cory Voorhis.  You saw them up close and personal.

BEAUPREZ:  You and I knew it as well as anybody, Peter.

BOYLES:  Absolutely.  All right.  Hang on, sir!  We’ll bring you back.

[commercial break]

BOYLES:  […] I’ve gotten all these text messages from my boys, about our guest!  […] This is gubernatorial hopeful Bob Beauprez, Republican hopeful, former Congressman.  And I made a list — I got to be honest with you, you and I, you know, we’ve had good talks.  I made a list of things last night, when Case told me you were going to come on the show, let’s do a quick recap.  If you become governor, and you got my vote, Common Core — you’ll do everything in your power to stop Common Core.  John Hickenlooper welcomed Common Core. And your other —

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah.  It’s gone.

BOYLES:  As you in know, other states in the country have kicked Common Core out.




BOYLES:  If Rick Perry, the governor of Texas– who I believe you know, I think you guys are friends —

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah, I do know Rick.  I’m not saying he’s going to call.  But if he called, I’d take the call and I’d answer it.

BOYLES:  Yeah! So, and if he said, “Hey, Governor Beauprez, I need-.” That sounds good right now, Governor Beauprez, — “I need some guys on the border to help my guys.”  You would in fact help him.

BEAUPREZ:  Uh, I don’t think he’s going to call, but I’d help him.  Yeah.

BOYLES:  Yeah. Um, you would not bring any more of these illegal children that Barack Obama is welcoming into this country, you would not — to the best of your abilities, with all of your power, you would keep them out of Colorado.

BEAUPREZ:  The best thing we could do for those children is keep them with their families and send a clear message they’re not going to be allowed to come across the border.  So, yes.

BOYLES:  And the official policy of Colorado, everyone knows it — or unofficial policy — is sanctuary, proclaimed by Wellington Webb, continued by — and again, by Roy Romer, continued by Bill Ritter, continued by John Hickenlooper as mayor, continued by the sitting mayor, Michael Hancock and of course, as John Hickenlooper, as governor.  You would do everything in your power– and I want to put in there illegals getting drivers’ licenses, your thoughts about that.  If you would.

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah.  What you’ve got to do is enforce the law.  And we’ve been relaxing laws, ignoring the laws for a long time, and that has consequences.

BOYLES:  What else would you like to say?  What else should I ask you?

BEAUPREZ:  I want to make — I want to make Colorado great again, Pete. And that’s — to put it in simplest terms, we’ve got government ‘on the people’ now.  It is supposed to have been ‘of, by, and for the people’.  And we’ve got it exactly opposite, when you ask folks, anybody, “What’s driving you nuts?”  It’s, “Government getting in the way.  Government not just stepping on my toes but the boot up around my neck, and I’m — you know, for me, it’s a fairly simple question:  do you trust government, or do you trust people?  And what made this the greatest state in the greatest nation on God’s green earth is by trusting in people.  Some might think that sounds corny, but that is the great truism that founded this nation, and I think is at the heart of this great state.  That is what is going to guide me.  That’s– the other very profound word is ‘freedom’.  Freedom always worked pretty well, and whether they came after your gun rights, whether they come after your property rights, or they come after your taxes, or they regulate you to death, when government infringes on your freedom, you’re no longer as free as you once were.  And that’s what I think is the biggest problem in America today.  You know, it goes back to what Ronald Reagan famously told us.  When government expands, freedom necessarily contracts.

BOYLES:  Always.  Always.

BEAUPREZ:  Yeah!  I mean, it’s like — I think he even likened it to one of the laws of physics.  That’s just the way it works.  So, we’re going to go through, we’re going to analyze everything that government does — every agency, every rule, every regulation.  We’re going to invite people like you and your listeners to tell us, “Here’s where government has got it wrong,” and we’re going to root out everything we can that is not pro-job, pro-opportunity, and pro-freedom, and get this state moving again, be the kind of state that I grew up in and the reason I’m still here.

BOYLES:  Two quick things:  one is — [I’m] getting overwhelming emails right now. “Peter, thank you!  He has my vote!”  That’s interesting from a fellow.  The other one is, um, would you support — I was going to — this is one I wrote down last night.  Would you support arming teachers in public schools in Colorado?

BEAUPREZ:  I think that’s one of the mistakes we’ve made, is try to have these gun free zones.  When you do that, you basically send a message to the bad guys that, you know, look here!  Whether it’s a, you know, a college campus, or a school, I wish we lived in a society where we didn’t have to worry about such things, but we all know that that’s not reality.  If you can’t– you know, you may not like reality, but you’ve got to deal with it.  And protecting our kids–. Public safety is a very big deal to me, Pete. And we’ve failed on so many levels.  And sometimes we’ve failed simply because we want to wish and hope the evil away.  And evil does exist.  We’ve got to be prepared to protect ourselves and especially the most vulnerable of us– the kids, from evil when it’s out there.

BOYLES:  Would you set an execution date for Nathan Dunlap if you become governor?

BEAUPREZ:  Well, I’ll start that process in motion.  I don’t think it’s mine to set. I think that’s the court.  But absolutely, to answer your question, the answer is ‘yes’.

BOYLES:  Have a great weekend.  Thank you, sir.  [inaudible] […]

BEAUPREZ:  Thank you, Peter.