Peter Boyles Show, Ken Buck, October 23, 2019

Station:    KNUS, 710 am

Show:       Peter Boyles Show

Guests:    Buck, Ken

Link:        https://peterboyles.podbean.com/e/bucking-the-system-oct-23-2019-hr-3/

Date:       October  23, 2019

Topics:     GEO

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GUEST HOST RANDY CORPORON [00:00:01] We are joined from — I believe — Washington D.C., by Congressman and Colorado State GOP chairman Ken Buck. Ken, good morning.

U.S. REPRESENTATIVE FROM COLORADO’S FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND CHAIRMAN OF THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN PARTY, KEN BUCK:  [00:00:10] Good morning, Randy.

CORPORON [00:00:12] Glad to have you. And I really do appreciate it. People are very angry about some positions that you’ve taken. And when I reached out to you a couple of days ago and ask you some questions, you said you’d be happy to talk about it and you always show up. And I think people should note that from the outset, that you’re willing to talk about your decisions. And I really do appreciate it. So thank you for that.

BUCK [00:00:38] Absolutely.

CORPORON [00:00:39] Let’s start with the with the biggest concern, and perhaps–really–the least important, in the scheme of things. [00:00:48]But folks in Colorado wonder why Ken Buck chose not to support the 176 Republicans who made the effort to censure Adam Schiff. [10.8s]

BUCK [00:01:01] Sure. And I’ll tell you, the word ‘censure’, is the key there. [00:01:05]I don’t think that Adam Shift acted appropriately. I think it is borderline unethical conduct. And I think — in fact, there is a an ethical complaint against him and the Ethics Committee will look at that. I also think the way he’s handling the impeachment proceedings right now is is an absolute disgrace. Republicans aren’t allowed to call witnesses. [21.4s] We aren’t even allowed to talk about the–. I was at the interview with the ambassador yesterday. I will be at another interview today. [00:01:38]We aren’t even allowed to talk outside of the setting about what we hear. So, I am absolutely frustrated with Adam Schiff. I think he is somebody that should not be leading this effort — the Democrat effort at impeachment. And I’m very disappointed that the Democrats are not calling him out. [21.7s] But [00:02:01]the word ‘censure’ is an important word, Randy. And I think I sent you a brief statement about that. In the last hundred years, it’s been use six times. It’s been used to censure people for felony conduct. It’s been used to censure people for very serious sexual misconduct. But it has never been used — in 100 years –for words. And the thing that I think is so important about that is I have had several of my friends who have been — who the Democrats have filed a motion to censure on, because they didn’t like what my colleagues in the Freedom Caucus were saying. If you are censured, you are brought before the well of the House with a full House and you are — the allegations against you are read. The conclusion is read. And then you must apologize or face expulsion. It’s a pretty serious remedy and a pretty serious action. The reason I’m very reticent to use it is it sets a precedent for the future. If the majority ever wants to harass the minority, all they have to do is file these motions to censure, require someone to appear in the well, and go after them in that way, and have reasons to expulse — reasons to kick somebody out of Congress if they don’t comply. The other thing I think is really important, Randy, you and I both know the Constitution and we both know the speech and debate clause protects speech in Congress. [101.8s] And if Adam Schiff said something inappropriate in committee or used or misrepresented or lied about the fact that he was reading from a transcript, the remedy is not censure. [00:04:01]The remedy is not to violate the Constitution, in my opinion.  The remedy is to make sure that he is called out on it, which he was. [14.0s] And I just think this is a really bad precedent.

CORPORON [00:04:19] Yeah. And those are very principled reasons to have considered not voting for that, as you chose to do.

BUCK [00:04:27] No, I voted for it. I [00:04:28]voted–I voted the same way– every Republican voted to not table this motion, and every Democrat voted to table the motion. So I voted exactly the same as every other Republican. I didn’t co-sponsor the motion. [15.7s]

CORPORON [00:04:45] Right. But what –if the vote had been allowed to come to the floor, would you have supported it?

BUCK [00:04:51] No. And that’s –.

CORPORON [00:04:52] Okay, so–.

BUCK [00:04:53] I mean, it didn’t come to the floor, but–.

CORPORON [00:04:53] I understand. I understand. But you know, [00:04:58]what is it in the history of the recent behavior from Democrats that we’ve seen — especially since the election of this president — that makes you think that setting some kind of a precedent, while you’re in the minority, to set a higher standard is going to influence their behavior? You can see that from a political perspective, they’re going to use every tool, every lie, every statement, or sometimes people say misstatement of the president to continue to chip away politically at his ability to get reelected. [33.0s] And I feel like we are in a fight for the salvation of Western civilization right now, that if one of these socialists that’s running for president somehow manages to squeak out a victory in 2020, that all of the the honor and, you know, reflections on history and everything else will mean absolutely nothing!  Because right now this is a 100% onslaught from Democrats and [00:06:00]50% or so onslaught from Republicans to take down this president. [3.6s] And is there — does there come a time where the battle that we’re in and the war that we’re trying to win, you know, is greater than the individual decision to do the right thing on something that is virtually meaningless in the scheme of things?

BUCK [00:06:21] Well, let me ask you something, Randy, [00:06:22]are you suggesting that that half of the Republicans in the House are trying to take down this president? [5.4s]

CORPORON [00:06:30] No. No, you’re right. That’s an exaggerated number. But what you see is, you know, the president uses the term ‘lynching’ yesterday.

BUCK [00:06:38] Yes.

CORPORON [00:06:38] [00:06:38]And Republicans are as quick to the microphone as Democrats to condemn the use of this now new vile word that Democrats used freely to protect Bill Clinton in 1998. [12.3s] Black Democrats, white Democrats referred to that actually legitimate effort to impeach a president as a lynching. And we have Democrats [who are] the first to the microphone. And they don’t just take five seconds to say, “Well, you know, I wish he wouldn’t have used that word, but here’s why this president has to be reelected. And here’s why Black people and Hispanic people and men and women and everybody in the country is benefiting by his leadership.” Instead, we just have everybody buying in — well, ‘everybody,’ again, is an exaggeration — but so many buying into the left[‘s] mantra, the left take on everything that happens. [00:07:29]And it’s really becoming a battle for survival for Republicans. [3.8s] And [00:07:33]I’m hearing from Republicans here on this radio station who don’t feel like you as GOP chair or taking these positions in Congress –you know, regarding Syria, regarding the censor of Adam Schiff — understand the nature of the fight that we’re in. [17.4s]

BUCK [00:07:53] So, Randy, one: [00:07:55]I absolutely support this president, [2.9s] and; two: [00:08:00]I have gone to Democratic colleagues and I’ve said to those Democratic colleagues, “Listen, I didn’t support — I didn’t co-sponsor this censure motion because this is not censurable conduct. The president, and you know it, has not engaged in impeachable conduct. And I hope you remember the principled people on our side of the aisle who did not support this censure motion when it comes time to vote on impeachment, because impeachment is something that is far greater to — in significance — to the integrity of this country and the process and frankly, historically significant, that any censure motion. And I will continue to take the high road. And I will continue to talk to my — again — Democrat colleagues and appeal–. Now, not all of them. There are some of them that are that are gone, and, you know, they talked about impeachment before this president ever signed a single bill into law. But many of them are having a lot of doubts about this process. [67.3s] And frankly, [00:09:09]the American people are having a lot of doubts about the impeachment process, the way the Democrats are going about it, as well as the substance of what they’re bringing out. [8.1s] But let me make a real quick point, Randy. You are — among other things– in your law practice, a criminal defense attorney. I was a prosecutor for 25 years. If I had brought a case against somebody and had mis-charged that case, if I charged them with armed robbery when it was a simple robbery, you very well know that the judge, if not the defense attorney, would have had me in front of the Ethics Committee and the Supreme Court Ethics Board in a heartbeat, because I had done the wrong thing. [00:09:50]What matters to me is doing the right thing in the right way and getting the right result. And I believe we will get the right result in the impeachment inquiry because the facts are with us in that case. [12.2s]

CORPORON [00:10:04] It must be very, very frustrating to sit in on these interviews, sometimes referred to as depositions. And what I think has been almost appropriately characterized as a “Star Chamber” in the basement of the Capitol, and then not be allowed to have a transcript to review, not be allowed to talk about it on the outside. [00:10:24]How does the majority get away with making these kinds of rules right now? [3.9s]

BUCK [00:10:30] [00:10:30]They’re in the majority, and they can set the rules. And there’s very little that we could do about it, other than appeal to the American people and make sure the American people understand how unfair this process is. [12.9s] And Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker, has signed off on this entire process. She understands that [00:10:51]she is setting a precedent that will be used against Democrats in the future. There will  be a day when Republicans are in the majority of the House and there is a Democrat president, [9.8s] and instead of going to the Judiciary Committee, instead of having an open public hearing and bringing witnesses in and allowing the public to evaluate the credibility of  testimony –and again, Republicans can’t even call our own witnesses to rebut the testimony of some of the Democrat witnesses. [00:11:24]So it’s an absolutely unfair process. And it is frustrating to be part of it, especially since I was in a process for 25 years that was fair, where we had an impartial judge and we called in a jury and we followed rules of evidence, [17.9s] all the things that that are not occurring in this situation.

CORPORON [00:11:46] Let me give you a hypothetical regarding Adam Schiff and then we’ll move on from that topic, for sure. Had the censure motion not been limited to his misreading of the president’s phone call with the Ukraine president within the constraints of a congressional hearing and instead had covered all of the many lies he told the American people outside of Congress — he said, you know, the proof of obstruction is incontrovertible, the proof of collusion, incontrovertible.”It’s coming. It’s coming.”  He engaged in trying to get dirt on the president when he was called by comedians who said we have Russian pictures of naked Trump. And he wanted to pursue that. So he has lied to the American people on multiple occasions. [00:12:36]If the motion to censure him had been more broad, would you have considered it then? [5.1s]

BUCK [00:12:43] [00:12:43]It was more broad and, no.  [1.8s] Again,–.

CORPORON [00:12:45] Okay.

BUCK [00:12:47] [00:12:47]–when you’re talking about words, the words can be taken down in committee. The words can be debated in public. And if we open up the standard for censure to words, we are facing a serious problem with what happens in the future. [19.2s]

CORPORON [00:13:07] Do you agree with me that the Democrats and this is something we’ve talked about. Heck, even before you became chairman or early on in your congressional career, it’s a common complaint among Republicans and Republican candidates that, you know, getting Republicans and conservatives and Tea Partiers together is like herding cats because we fight among ourselves on every issue. The Democrats get in line a a decision is made. We’ve seen it with the blueprint here in Colorado that the ultimate goal is to win to win the election and then worry about, you know, what decisions you’re going to be able to make when you’re in the governing majority. But with Republicans, it seems like we have to debate and fight and squabble over every disagreement publicly and allow the Democrats to continue to control the narrative then and always be on the defense. [00:14:02]Is there a point where drawing these fine distinctions –and they’re legitimate distinctions about words and the appropriate use of censure–where the idea of coming together and supporting this president as a body to get that enthusiasm, to get the silent majority — or at least the silent mass of conservatives — to come out of their shells and express their support for this president, where the idea of winning is the bigger good, the greater good? [32.4s]

BUCK [00:14:39] In wh– I mean, what’s the question, Randy? Because I agree with what you’re saying, and I think that, you know, I have continued to talk about the fact that [00:14:49]by engaging in impeachment, this Congress is not passing the the U.S., Mexico or Canada Trade Agreement, [6.7s] which would have great benefits for middle class America, great benefits for the economy in America. We are not fixing the immigration problem. We are not building a wall as we should. We are not dealing with the Mideast situation as we should. Congress has abdicated its responsibilities to pursue a path of impeachment. That’s not something that the press wants to talk about. So, part of what the Democrats have — one of the huge advantages they have — in mobilizing their base and unifying their base is they have a unified voice in the media. And [00:15:36]we just don’t have that voice. Getting the word out about how terrible the process is and how little evidence they have that’s actually impeachable–which, I don’t think they have any evidence at this point — is nearly impossible because the media just doesn’t want to cover that. [19.7s]

CORPORON [00:15:57] You wrote an excellent piece that people can find at FoxNews.com. I assume you tweeted it. People should be following you at your Twitter handle, which is Congressman — no! [@]RepKenBuck., [@]RepKenBuck. And [00:16:11]you really had an opportunity in that platform to break down just how disastrous and inappropriate this impeachment process has been for Democrats. [8.2s] And you’re absolutely right that the media — no matter how much podium pounding you were to do, the media will never cover it. But given the fact that [00:16:29]the media will cover every, every criticism, every disagreement that Republicans have with this president, does there come a time where unity among the party, inspiration for the base and just simply focusing on trying to change the narrative or at least not join in with Democrats and the mainstream media on their narrative becomes more important than drawing these individual distinctions? [28.6s]

BUCK [00:16:59] Oh, I think that’s a great point. And I think when you talk policy, you will find unity among Republicans on issues like tax reform and issues like confirming conservative judges and issues like the trade agreements between USMCA and China. [00:17:24]When you get to the more divisive language that the president uses, you’re not going to find unity. And so the president in some ways has got to lead and lead in in a unifying way. [10.7s] If we were to constantly be talking from the White House and on the Hill about the benefits of these trade agreements, I think we would have a chance of drowning out — it would be absolutely unified, and there would be a chance of drowning out a lot of this impeachment talk.  Because our — you would see the stock market jump 1,500, 2,000 points within a week of the USMCA being considered and passing on the Hill. And so, yes, I think that [00:18:07]there are a lot of unifying messages that we could bring forward. [3.5s]

CORPORON [00:18:12] But of course, you’ve got a president who’s a street brawler and is going to continue to fight and continue to be provocative and continue to distract the media away from the story of the day by having them chase him down another rabbit hole. And I [00:18:26]think it’s incumbent upon Republicans to — if they truly support this president — to understand the nature of this president and the unusual but successful way that he got himself elected in his first run at political office ever. [15.3s] And so, you know, we’re going to run out of time. And I we’ve got to spend a little bit of time talking about Colorado. What is your time like?

BUCK [00:18:52] I’ve got a little time, Randy.

CORPORON [00:18:53] Do we have time to take a break and get you for another segment, or do we need to–?

BUCK [00:18:56] Sure!

CORPORON [00:18:57] Okay, let’s do that, then. Let’s take our break. When we come back, we’ll take off the ‘Congressman Ken Buck’ hat, put on the ‘Colorado state GOP chairman’ hat for Ken Buck and see what’s happening in Colorado. The November elections are just around the corner. And people I trust say our performance in those elections will be an indicator of our performance for 2020. We’ll get Ken Buck’s take on that and much, much more when we return on The Peter Boyles Show here at 710[a.m.], KNUS.

[00:19:26] [commercial break]

CORPORON [00:19:30] Randy, Corporon here, for Peter Boyles. We’ll get right back to our guest, Congressman Ken Buck, also the Colorado state GOP chair. And since we’ve got another segment with you, Ken, let’s stay in Washington, D.C. for just a minute. [00:19:43][I’m] getting a lot of questions about your letter to the secretary of state, joined by a couple others from the Colorado delegation, asking the president to reconsider his limitation on refugees. The number is 18,000, [13.9s] as I recall.

BUCK [00:20:00] Yeah. At the time, when President Reagan was president, we had 200,000 refugees admitted annually to the United States. The number has decreased to 18,000, in large part because of the number of illegal immigrants who are coming into this country seeking asylum. The request that I made was that we recognize that [00:20:25]we need to be more efficient in deporting those who are not seeking asylum in good faith, do [9.6s] get that process done more [00:20:38]quickly. I recognize and agree with the president that we can’t have an increase in refugees because we only have so many people that are able to process refugee applications — as well as the asylum side of the picture — because of the number of illegal immigrants coming into the country. [19.7s] And so [00:20:58]what I’m asking is that we are more efficient on getting rid of people who are coming here illegally so that the people who are stuck in a bad situation, many of them Christians in the Middle East and other religious minorities that are being persecuted are allowed into our country. [17.1s]

CORPORON [00:21:18] Don’t we need to get control of the border, get through this political dynamite that’s being thrown at the president every single day before we spend a whole lot of time worrying about a system that is so overburdened? You’re always, you know, quick to vote against unnecessary spending. I understand that the cost of refugees in the U.S. can be as much as five to six thousand dollars per person per month. You can correct me if I’m wrong on that. But once again, when we’re in this fight for the survival of our nation to stop a socialist from taking over the presidency, to push back against the nonstop media, college campus, and Democrat narrative, [00:22:01]why are we picking these areas of disagreement and picking these fights with the president right now? [5.4s]

BUCK [00:22:09] [00:22:09]Randy!  That’s not — that’s not fair!  [0.7s] You have been very fair to me every time I’ve gone on. This is not picking a fight with the president. And my request of the president was a letter. I haven’t been out holding press conferences and been bashing the president. I’ve sat down with Ken Cuccinelli. I’ve sat down with Secretary Pompeo. We’ve had discussions about this. They absolutely only lowered this number because of the incredible stress that we’ve had from illegal immigration in this country. This is not a fight. This is a suggestion. I think [00:22:41]this president is very compassionate and very understanding of the situation in the Middle East. [5.6s] We have — in other other parts of the world, frankly, this isn’t just a Syria problem or an issue that exists in one part of the world. But we are a country of immigrants. We’ve always been proudly a country of legal immigrants. And [00:23:04]I think that having more legal immigrants in one category and a lot less of the illegal immigrants is something we should strive for. [9.2s] And so I wanted to make the president aware of my thoughts, and some other members joined me in that. But [00:23:18]this is not a fight at all with the president. [2.1s]

CORPORON [00:23:22] Well, that’s good to hear. You know, I hear from folks who say that a lot of these, for instance, these H1 B immigrants are taking American jobs. And my understanding — and looking at the numbers — is that we’re actually having trouble filling some of these jobs, which is why an increase in H1 B visa applications has been requested. What’s the status on that, bringing more outsiders in to fill American positions?

BUCK [00:23:53] So, there are there are jobs that traditionally we have a very difficult time filling with Americans. In my district in eastern Colorado, Randy, having Americans in the fields picking watermelons or cantaloupes or honeydew melons in the Rocky Ford area, for example, [is] very rare. We have a program that has worked very successfully where folks typically from south of the border come in, they work for seven or eight months, and they leave, in sort of a temporary ag situation. They want to leave and they know that if they follow the rules, they’ll be welcomed back the next year. That that kind of program works well. [The] high-tech workers that you’re talking about, I’ve had people at Microsoft and other companies talk about the fact they’ve had to open facilities in Canada because they can’t get enough of the type of engineers that they need to do the work in this country. So we’re increasing the tax base and revenue for other countries when we should be doing it here. It’s a delicate balance. We are involved in more STEM programs around the country right now, trying to produce more young people who are graduating from college that we’ll be more prepared for the workforce of the future. And I think those programs are going to be really successful. In the meantime, we do have a shortage of workers with those high-tech backgrounds. And we’re going to have to continue to bring those highly qualified people in from other countries.

CORPORON [00:25:39] 7:33 [a.m], about 27 minutes to go until 8 o’clock. We’ll be joined by conservative statesman, the elder statesman of Colorado, John Andrews in the 8:00 hour. We’re continuing our conversation with Congressman Ken Buck. And Ken, let’s bring it home to Colorado. The — Ted Trimpa was on yesterday morning, with George Brauchler on this show, and he said right now, if the vote were to be held, that Hickenlooper could beat Cory Gardner about 2-to-1, that that’s what their internal polling shows. And one thing that I have learned in developing a relationship with Trimpa is he is willing to tell the truth as he sees it. And obviously, he was very instrumental in “The Blueprint,” those structures, the big money that pours into the state, continue to work their magic in turning Colorado blue. And so, [00:26:33]people are asking, “What is happening with the Colorado GOP?What is happening with outside organizations? Have we actually found any better billionaires to help us push back in the state of Colorado?” [10.8s]

BUCK [00:26:46] I think we have great billionaires in Colorado and elsewhere that are interested in Colorado. But I do think that they [the Democrats] have built over the last 16 years a structure, they have invested heavily in that structure, and they are benefiting from that. We are doing our best — and obviously, it’s not within the party. Most of the work that we’re talking about right now is work that goes on outside the Republican Party and Democrat Party — on behalf of the party or the candidates, but it goes on outside. And so, there are efforts to build that structure for the Republican Party. It is going to take us a while to catch up. [00:27:28]I believe that Colorado is a center-right state. [2.2s] If you look at the ballot initiatives last time, the center-right position won every single ballot initiative, and we lost every single statewide race. I don’t agree with Ted — or, I suppose Ted could be right in terms of ‘if you took a snapshot right now.’ I don’t know that. But John Hickenlooper has never faced an opponent like Cory Gardner. The difference between being a governor and being a senator is, as a senator you have to take tough votes every day. As a governor, you are doing things that help people. You’re improving roads. You’re improveing the K-12–.

CORPORON [00:28:05] [laughs]  Not in Colorado!  Not in Colorado, you’re not!  Go ahead.

BUCK [00:28:06] [laughs] I think that when when the money comes into Colorado — and it will be a huge amount of money, because we’re talking about future Supreme Court justices and, really, the future — not just of Colorado, but of America. [unintelligible] in Colorado, you’re going to see a very stark contrast between the John Hickenlooper that people have known for the last few years, and the John Hickenlooper who is running for office. He has been able to brand himself in a positive way with the help of the media, again. And he won’t have that help. And when he — when the truth is told about John Hickenlooper, the numbers with Cory Gardner are going to look much different. I think Cory is the best candidate that we could possibly put up for that position. And I think he’s going to do a great job.

CORPORON [00:29:06] Well, I pray from your lips to God’s ears that that is correct. You know, it seems to me that [00:29:11]what Republican leadership is doing is trying to change the president when in fact, the message that should be garnered from the president’s victory and the president’s success so far is that you can’t do politics as usual anymore. You can’t try and play to the middle in order to win elections. Being polite and civil in these debates, when you’ve got a Alinsky fueled left that is so crazed right now, because they just can’t believe that Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States — neither can she.  Are Republicans learning the message that Donald Trump is providing on what it takes to actually win in the 21st century? [47.3s]

BUCK [00:30:01] [00:30:01]So, Randy, I think that I think we have learned a lot of lessons from. From Donald Trump. But I think the important thing that we need to do, as you mentioned earlier, the Democrats come together and they focus on winning. It is time for Republicans to acknowledge that there are people that we disagree with in the party. We have different positions: sometimes very insignificant differences, sometimes more significant differences. But if we don’t come together and we don’t get Cory Gardner elected, we don’t win back the state Senate. We don’t get Donald Trump elected in Colorado. We’re making a serious mistake because we are handing over to the left the keys of power. And we have got to unite and we’ve got to make sure that we are willing to acknowledge that there are people that aren’t 100 percent like us, but we’re going to win with it with the very best candidates we can put forth. [57.1s]

CORPORON [00:30:58] Yeah. My fear, though, is I’ve heard those messages when I held my nose and voted for John McCain, I did the same thing when I held my nose and voted for John for Mitt Romney. Now we’ve got a president who I was skeptical of initially and has got me so fired up a base in Colorado that is so incredibly fired up. And I just worry that we’re using the same messages and kind of the same strategies that have failed Republicans, especially here in Colorado of late, but have failed Republicans even nationwide. And that instead we need to be on the attack on the offensive, not quick to apologize for every perceived wrong or mistake or misstatement or whatever. Last question. I know you’ve been very generous with your time and people are just riding in who are involved in the Republican Party. I get that elections are now won outside of the party structure, but the party is still has an important role in organizing precincts and having district captains and getting out the vote.

CORPORON [00:32:00] And it just seems like we still have so many open and vacant seats. And it’s not like there’s anything you can do about that. If people don’t step up, if people don’t volunteer, then you don’t have the manpower you need. What what can we do to make sure that, you know, Democrats in 2018, that a Web site at the precinct level, we don’t even have district captains in some precincts? What do you have any encouragement, any guidance for how we can make sure that the GOP in its limited role can do everything possible?

BUCK [00:32:34] Yeah, Randy, I appreciate the opportunity because I think one of the keys is everybody — everybody — needs to get out and vote no on CC. It is it is a critical issue for Colorado and it’s a critical way for conservatives in this state to say enough’s enough. With Governor Polis, we can’t sit back and not allow that to happen. And secondly, the county parties are absolutely the key in terms of the grass roots. And we need to make sure that folks Google, they’re there. County party and volunteer. Try to be a precinct committee person. Don’t complain about how your Republican elected officials are acting. If you’re not willing to spend a couple of hours a month helping get elected, get Republicans elected, and then you will have a voice. Those Republican elected officials will be coming to you and asking for your support. You’ll have the opportunity to give input in how you’d like to see. And it absolutely affects how people vote in Washington, D.C. and Denver and how they conduct themselves as county commissioners and sheriffs and in other positions.

CORPORON [00:33:44] Final question, limited time. Will Donald Trump be making an appearance in Colorado?

BUCK [00:33:50] He has spoken at the Air Force Academy graduation. He will absolutely be making appearances. I’ve invited him. The chairwoman of the RNC, I believe, will be joining us at some point in the near future. I would love to see the president and vise president in Colorado as much as possible.

CORPORON [00:34:10] But do you your perspective, your belief is that that will happen at least once between now and happening a little bit. OK, very, very good. You can always generous with your time. Appreciate it. We’ll be in touch. Good luck to you. And stay strong, my friend.

BUCK [00:34:25] Thanks, Randy. Appreciate it. Take care. Bye bye.

CORPORON [00:34:27] Late on the break, we’ll get there now. Phones are loaded up. John Andrews in the 8:00 o’clock hour, Randi corporate on The Peter Boyles Show at 7:00 10k in U.S. Download our free mobile app.